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forum looks a bit better now

so, you've started seo 5 months ago? when did you get the 1st results of it, like days, weeks, months later? still didnt got any?

Nice work Slash, keep up the great work!!! Love all the changes, easy on the eye for sure!!!  

I got to say, TM is coming up very high in a google seach for almost anything these days.

Well done!

Mixriot /TM Crew Vs SEO - no contest!!!!  

not the best place to talk SEO - but it's cool.. =) results, i've got results right away on many avenues. and since then they've been progressively increasing. it's nice to look at it now and see results from the long scope of time (August 2011 till May 2012 - 9 months, so i know about SEO since 9 months ago), and yes, see significant results. it's hard to do everything properly according to SEO, since i am basically alone at this, and i gotta do sideprojects, like recent implementation of caching SQL results and reusing them, a site-wide project that i've been at for a month already.. but results are obvious there - load time of index page or torrent browse page has speeded up 10 fold.. with SEO you plant seeds, and you wait and see them grow maybe in 3-4 months. and results are visible too. for example, my stats software site-wide reporting following progress:

Month | Unique visitors | Number of visits | Pages | Hits | Bandwidth
-------- | -------- | -------- | -------- | -------- | -------- |
Jan 2012 | 646,187 | 2,041,545 | 99,371,278 | 106,120,772 | 255.02 GB
Feb 2012 | 780,319 | 2,375,771 | 99,368,048 | 106,568,983 | 264.70 GB
Mar 2012 | 964,341 | 3,078,886 | 112,225,671 | 121,394,336 | 354.82 GB
Apr 2012 | 1,058,478 | 3,398,012 | 112,249,384 | 120,422,913 | 315.67 GB

pages and hits don't increase as much as visitors and visits because majority of hits and pages (page-views) are counted from torrent-client-to-tracker communications, which are alot more of them than simple page browsing..  

now that i have my SEO in order, or at least i think i do for the most part, my main task is to generate the buzz. to let google see that different awesome things are happening here, and smart discussions, and commenting on torrents, and rating, and socially liking and sharing, and all kinds of other stuff, and thus google will know, for example, any essential mix search aired in october or later, try "dj name essential mix", if not first in google - then will be in yahoo or bing, if not first 5 pages in google (sometimes it happens) then add "torrent" to search, and it will be 1st or 2nd result 90% of the times. so all this buzz will tell google that stuff here is interesting, and next time similar stuff comes, it will rate us higher in search results. "nicky romero" has never been very popular here, until recently i haven't really seen torrents, so now "nicky romero essential mix" is 10th-11th result - it's fallen from 1st spot, but in a week or two will return to first page. but check who's above? 3 soundclouds (top 500 sites in the world), 3 mixclouds, 1 zippyshare link, and 3 blogs that only do dubstep and mainstream essential mixes. but add torrent to the search phrase? tribalmixes is 1st in google and yahoo, 7th in bing... so after all, it is the combinations of search keywords that produce excellent results. people use those less than 1-2 word search phrases (talking about total searches everywhere), but then those mainstream popular searches still don't make way less than those long 'several word' searches, more specific due to 3-4-5 words in them.. and such searches are called "long tail" and they give total bigger than popular searches, that are big each alone.. hope you see my meaning..

for you, it is a different model of SEO that will work.. you need to concentrate on local searches. first the nearby area where your firm services, then include areas around, best is to have a page for each area or town in your service region as a page on your website. usually all those pages would look similar, and text can be similar, just explaining what where, and to do that you can use article spinners, they can replace some words with synonyms and google will think those are all different pages, if you spin every time new text, so google won't think you're spamming, but will count all pages as different and valuable. try place several main cities or something on your front page on the bottom, just write "installing pvc dograma in city1, area2, village3, etc and all nearby areas." and in a day try searching for "pvc dograma city1/area2/village3" and similar searches.. ok enough.. too long a post again..

thats because google knows you visit TM a lot, its customized for you

it's not necessary so. i would rather say, it's not so. it is complicated. i only know it will insist on showing results that you +1-ed, higher than other results. or that your circles/friends +1-ed. but if you +1-ed index page, it won't show some other page higher for that reason, only if you +1 it too.. to stop that, all you need to do is log out of your google or gmail account while browsing something else. well, that is not all.. it also knows your shares on wordpress, blogger, and many other big social sites...

on the other hand, dont mix this up with suggestive adds. maybe you got those crossed in your mind... adds served by google can be same from site to site, and they might reflect the sites that you've visited lately, or sites similar to those that you've recently visited, i.e. thay keep history and try to tailor adds to your interests..

that is why if i want to know true positions which tribalmixes occupies in search engines, i use third party search tools, which basically initiate my search from some other IP, and results are not customized for me. i have heavy customization, cause of all my blogs and i plus 1 and share tm pages alot and other crap... i get bothered with it.. of course..

i know the long-tale searh is better as i always use it but most people lust type pvc....and google itself show them what they need. anyway, glad you found seo valueable and try to use it much more for almost everything, especialy the buzzz. keep it hard.

that's the thing. you gotta start with long tail, and gradually you build reputation on those, and over time your shorter searches will be better by themselves (just for being parts of longer search strings), and later you start after the short ones. i couldn't wait, so i started going after several searches at the same time. well, it's also because tribalmixes is VERY big. google has over 1.2mln of tm pages indexed, google webmaster tool reports somewhere from 2mln to 3mln pages, and i would say it's probably 4-5mln total, cause google cannot access everything. with so many pages you can pursuit several goals at a time. so anyways, just 2 quick examples.

1. i started going after "download dj mixes" and "dj mixes" simultaneously. in about 3-4 months first one was coming up on second page of google results. shorter one was reluctant, 4th page for months.. then this and that, and blah-blah-blah, and just now i checked "dj mixes" returned on 8th position, and "download dj mixes" was 9th... for "dj mixes" it is surprising, cause it was 10-11th last week, but the other one has been on first page for a while. when i went after these 2, "google keywords" tool said "dj mixes" is searched about 400k times a month. "download dj mixes" - about 140k times. the problem is, not that i am so up there, i see it's nowhere near 400k.. it is maybe 2-3k times per month.. people search for "tribalmixes" about same amount per month... that sucks..

2. do not ever succumb to paid backlinks. NEVER. it's better to have 1 proper link than 1000 paid ones. cause paid links (those that you pay for) come from useless resources, from irrelevant sites, and google sooner or later figures it out. worst case scenario - google will ban your site from search results.. that i think has happened to one site that was bothering me for a while.. all of a sudden this djsradioshow.com shows up first in "download dj mixes" search and a bunch of others. i am pissed, all the work i do, and can't, but he got up there in no time.. well... soon i chilled, checked his backlinks, found our most of them come from "article repository sites", where people submit articles about shit, well, about anything, mostly they have to pay to publish those articles.. so i started waiting.. and what do you know... 3-4 months later, this site doesn't come up on any searches. either it's too low down maybe on 10th page or something, or it was banned by google. it doesn't even show on "djs radio show com" search... well, i checked, they didn't get banned, but still, lost first positions in everything they had.. at some point i talked to the guy, some russian fuck, he said he was investing alot into this new site he did.. idiot.. all his money was wasted... so don't buy links.

sorry long msg again... hehe. =)

i wont buy any, i know this + i have no money to waste in such a shit anyway

but i badly need the short search results as i know its most searched and about the local searhes, well, we are so small country so here are no realy a locals, its the capitol and the rest. sorry, this has nothing to do with the site news, post in the other one your respond if you wish ::)))

continuing the Little Big News here. and a new little big change is here...

we have fully revamped the Points System, seeking to invite more participation in site's inner mechanics by the community. Ratio-Free feature has also undergone a drastic change.

1. most important. if you want to make your torrent Ratio-Free - there's now a fee for that. you will have to spend 5000 points for any regular torrent to be promoted to ratio-free, while torrents known as mega-packs of size 900mb and larger will only require 1000 points for that.

2. points bonuses have been greatly increased for all the valuable activity that community members like you do on tribalmixes.com, to be specific:

NEW and MOST IMPORTANT!! when your regular (none-ratio-free) torrent reaches 100 downloads - you get 2000 points for that (as a bonus and a sign of our appreciation of the fact that you're bringing quality mixes here). watch out, if torrent is ratio-free at the moment of hitting 100 snatches - there will be no bonus for that!!

add new DJ List record - get 1500 points (make sure it doesn't exist first)

upload and share new torrent - 500 points

start a discussion about any DJ List record by clicking an icon on the page of any DJ, (will be redirected to forum), - get 125 points

start new topic in forums - 100 points, make a post in an existing thread - 25 points

comment on any fresh torrent (maximum 7 days old) - get 35 points

rate any torrent - 20 points + 2 FREE Lottery Tickets, rate any DJ List record - 50 points + 3

be first to fulfill reseed request and help someone download that old torrent - get 300 points

become Power User - get 300 points (can be used to enable Power Title via My Profile)

donate money - get 100 points per 1$, multiplied up to 8 times for donations of $10 and bigger

and some others. read full Points Schedule right here in F.A.Q. https://www.tribalmixes.com/faq.php#site6

ps. want to earn lots of points by populating our DJ List? we only have about 3000 records in it right now, very very many DJs, Clubs, Shows, Festivals and other EDM institutions are not in our list, and we're in it to make our DJ List - the best dj list out there!!

Thanks for your hard work, slash!  The site looks stellar and membership is steadily increasing.  Cheers!  


   

yeah, i wanted to add some djlist entry but didnt figured how. editors only?

i have also closed off unlimited downloads to people with WARNINGs. with respect to Sharing and community, everyone has to upkeep their Share-Ratio not to fall into the warning zone, because users with warnings can only download Ratio-Free torrents and WEEKLY RELEASES. this is not a new rule, it has existed since 2006. it was disabled in Fall 2011 when Public Downloads were tried out (unregistered guests could download torrents), it has been reinstated now again.

thanks for your attention.

new feature:
now all torrents and releases that belong to the 3 of our latest bots SUPERSEED3, djmixes and festivals can be transferred from their account into anyone else's account, as long as there's enough points in that account. i.e. any torrent from /releases page can be yours, if you pay special fee (in points). when "owned" such torrent will be listed under your name both among torrents and releases, but the main stats will go onto the "torrents"-one from that point on.

what is it for? there isn't enough attention yet to the /releases page, and the page might take long to become very popular, so this is a temporary solution for good torrents from the releases to be re-uploaded to the main /torrents page. also you might simply wanna share this or that under your name, why not? just have enough points to do so.. =)

in torrent & releases browse there will be $$$ sign on every eligible torrent, and a special button will be in details of those eligible ones saying [sponsor/own], so it'll be easy to find those.

ps. if you want to own an old torrent from superseed3 on torrents page - it will be transferred onto /releases, under your name.