SEO? (Search Engine Optimization)

a legitimate business can get a links from MozDirectory, being listed there is very good, i cannot get tribalmixes in there, they won't accept.. best is simply to participate in relevant forums. not even as much as here, but just a post every 2-3 days or something, and have site as a link in your signature. links, and for better understanding this type of links is called "back-links", are not for indexing, they are for many other purposes. for indexing you need to have a sitemap - a file xml/txt that has a list of all URLs, all pages on your site. this way google will know how to index, but even that is not needed, as long as your pages properly link to each other, so that crawler could go from one to another to every page. like stuff you want to index must be available with or without logging in, and such crap.

backlinks are different. very simplified, back links and they way they are displayed, tell google what other people and other sites think about your site, and how they perceive your site...  for example, you have your site name in signature here. it's good. all your posts, comments, etc, etc, now you have tribalmixes link to your site from MANY pages, and it's good, cause you contributed those pages and tm has benefited great, and for each of your posts you get a link back to your site - it's something i agree with, cause i am looking for your unique user-generated text input, and you're looking to leave another link (maybe not for that, but lets assume you are). if you have Google Webmaster account, you can actually see there with time tribalmixes will be mentioned alot, as a place that links to you alot. but lets get back to backlinks. first step to improve your link in signature? as i said - find your main keywords, and do a link with anchor text.

for example what i do is dj mixes - such a link tells everyone who sees it, and, most important, tells google, that tribalmixes.com is about DJ Mixes. this is the anchor text that is MOST important. if you link like that from your signature - google will know that tribalmixes things of your site as very good in making windows, or whatever you do, just put it as anchor text in the link. now lets think of tm and my link dj mixes ... if i post this link, for example, on some kids site or something, that has nothing to do with music. google will see it, but will not value it alot, because what can kids site know about tribalmixes? iuf i do a link from twitter, it's ok but better than kids, cause twitter ranks very high in the world, top 10 sites, so it's good - a link from top site, but still not the best. if i go to some dubstep forums and put a link - it is more valuable, but still not the best, cause dubstep is a fresh development on tm. if i get it on house-page.com or something like that, then it is best for google: not only a very relevant site links to tribalmixes, but also with anchor text "dj mixes" - very relevant/ but that's not all yet, the best is to link from HOME PAGE, from .com/ - a link from home page/index is as valuable as 1000 links from other pages of the same site. that is why you can rarely see main pages of sites in general linking to any other resources. links have "link juice", that flows from all pages into all pages, and there are ways to keep it in your site, not let it spill, but i think best is to link freely to anything, esp to anything relevant, cause alot of times they will link back to you w/o even you asking them for it. link juice is very complicated. and i barely know how it flows.. it's all about google page rank. tribalmixes has pr 4 on main page, many pages PR 3. your main page PR is 0, cause site is fresh, afaik. google raises ranks globally every 3 months, next one coming up around May 10th... your page will probably get PR 2-3 right away.

well, anyways, as i said, linking is best with Anchor Text and it's best from relevant sites. having all your 1000s of comment and posts link 1000s of tribalmixes pages to your site is good, but it's not good enough, compared to one link from some home-improvement site. also since site is fully in bulgarian, i would recommend linking with anchor text written in bulgarian, and from other bulgarian resources, find BG home improvement stores, forums and communities and start participating in them a little bit. and keep it all in your native language, or link with URL only, cause links with anchor text in english won't do much, for google usually same word in different languages means different things..

i can continue this, spit more wisdom as the time goes.. SEO did help me double visitations in half a year, ALEXA ranking went up 4 times, so it's a very proven method of attracting people to your site. how they will act on the site is not SEO, but more of site design and layout and shouldn't be mixed with SEO, except for easy access of anything that is on the screen and needed for navigation. yeah, site navigation could actually be called part of SEO science... maybe i call my friend to join this conversation, cause i learned all of my stuff from one friend of mine, plus read a book or two later, skimmed mostly..

very good reading, thanks a lot, wat i did so far is to register in bg search engines but not in relevant forums so this the target no1. this anchor text cant fix proper here in BG? cheers

this moz directory. is it the dmoz.org one? they,ve rejected me 4 times already

why not, as i said - just put bulgarian text there, any anchor text is good, and since your firm is bulgarian for bulgarians - do everything in your language, way more useful..

dmoz surely can reject.. they didn't even answer to my request, be happy they answered to you.. =)

i tried put дограма instead of dograma here in my signature but it does looks like %^$^@^@^$&*^@^%!^& shite

see?

i was told not to register in google directories but wait google find the site itself instead. is that make any sense?

i am sure google has found it already. about linking in BG from here - sorry, doesn't support... but this is english site, so linking should be in english. linking from BG sites to yours should be in BG. this is how you know: https://www.google.com/search?sugexp=chrome,mod=3&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=site%3Apvc-dograma-bg.com or search in google for site:pvc-dograma-bg.com

i guess they meant not to put that html file on my site yet, it does make sense now when i click the link and went trough the steps

hmmm, the site is running for 2 weeks only and already saw it in the 10th google page from 2310k results. let see how it goes after this page ranking around 10th may :fingercrossed:

search engine ranking is a very complicated thing too. one thing i know very clearly - to be ranked high on a keyword or phrase you pursuit, that is where backlinks play a very big role, and backlinks with the anchor text being that phrase are the most important of them all. being ranked high in results is a normal thing, and at that time it can fluctuate dozens of pages up and down, it's ok, but the real battle starts when you reach first 5 pages.. as i said before, or should have said, tribalmixes was an example of how SEO should not be done ever on any site. most of the site was closed from google's access. especially when i switched whole site to AJAX in 2008, - was groundbreaking technology, twitter and facebook only started using AJAX in 2010-11, - but not readable by google at that time, so gradually the buzz around tribalmixes went down, and it fell in world ranking from 15k top sites in 2007 to around 300k in 2011.. and i started all from the scratch, and SEO involved only summer 2011..

and so my main goal keyword for now is "dj mixes", i started on 5th page in summer, now tribalmixes shows up 10-12th result, top of second page. or "download dj mixes" - 6-9th now on first page, also from 5th page up. and many other keywords and phrases, including "dj torrents" - 1st page, "download club mixes" - 1st page, "dj mix torrent", etc. not looking, but got it as a sideshow of being a torrent tracker - tribalmixes is strong in keyword "torrent". i guarantee you if search google for "any-dj-name torrent" - tribalmixes will be if not on first page then on second page.

anyways, a fresh example if power of anchor-backlinks.. some time ago i went around and posted a bunch of links everywhere for tm dj list SKRILLEX page. and i guess it worked so well, that in next few weeks tm's result for skrillex in google has moved up from 10th page up to 1st page, producing about 400k monthly impressions in search for skrillex widh over 6k clicks, and that search produces many millions of results.. with time it fell back though, and now steve aoki produces more impressions for tribalmixes than skrillex, about 60k monthly, but nowhere near peak fame of 400k impressions. if it were always first result - it would have done about 200k clicks per month...

anyways, here's a link of a tool i use, it's good for checking your ranking in search engines, it checks 3 major ones for you, if you don't notice your site resulting there right away - try to pick a better search phrase, if anything - copy a piece of text from any page and paste there just to see
it works... search for tm keywords i wrote above just for fun.. =) https://www.seocentro.com/tools/search-engines/keyword-position.html
also note, google has over 60% of searches, bing and yahoo about 10%, the rest 30% belongs to youtube, which is not a search engine, but people like to search there for stuff...

global google page rank increase happened last night.. i am not quite satisfied with it, but as i said before, i have no idea how to work link juice so that my page rank would increase where i want it to, but oh well.. some day i'll learn..

on the other hand, bidona, as i said before, your site's main page has PR 3 now. next step - 4 - is very hard to get. and 5 is impossible.. i dunno how other sites do it.. the only PR 10 site is google...

PR3 is better than 2 as you said both. i know 4 is hard and 5 is harder but not impossible. so, we are on a mission again. and i was not satisfied as well as i used to be on 10th and now im sucking 18th. the thing is happening once in a 3 months? not very good news for me. TM is still pr4 than? i was told some sites have we say 5 on the main page but 4 or 3 on the sub pages, sounds fair enough.

yeah, most of the time main page gets highest rank, sometimes thou you can come across the opposite. i didn't believe it until found a site like that - main page 4, and some other page - 6. it's not the page rank that affects your search engine rankings, but an array of about 200 factors... SEO is a complicated thing... as i told you, bouncing from 10th page to 18 and back is normal. the closer you get to first page - the smaller bumps will be (like falling from 15th spot to 19th spot).. only the first few spots stay strong and rarely change.. tm is still 4. i know sites with three times the traffic and only PR 2 on main page.. it's all weird and complicated.. and search results ranking changes every day. it;s just google PR - once every 3 months. don't get stuck on this, it's not much relevant, it just exists for SEO people to obsess about.. =)

linkyresult 23 from 189k is fantastic