Where are all the seeders?, page 2
slash ProDanceCulture
on September 9th, 2015
/ post 68188
there's an extent to my good will. my irritation comes from the fact that you mentioned this as somehow important. i get moody on week days. i hate my job...
slash ProDanceCulture
on September 9th, 2015
/ post 68189
i mean, how important was it for me to confirm that "yes, despite the fact that site says 'seeders' and 'downloaders' on every torrent page, and yes, even with slow or zero upload speed, although site has no way of reallu knowing how fast some seed uploads to others, site does consider such slow peers as seeds, because they seeds report themselves as such. this is the fragility of torrent system. tracker acts upon what peer tells it. if peer hides some info or falsifies other - tracker has close to zero chance of checking it. peer to peer communications only involve tracker at the very first step.
i don't know why i have to chew all this info... unconnectable peer are called unconnectable because noone can connect to them. they can initiate connection and connect to other connectable peers. this is why being not connectable cuts off half of the communications, and 80% of the chances to seed are lost. such peers usually sit quiet, get updated with tracker, get list of downloaders, try to connect to them 1 time, most likely fail, and wait for next refresh in up to 1.5 hrs.
i don't know why i have to chew all this info... unconnectable peer are called unconnectable because noone can connect to them. they can initiate connection and connect to other connectable peers. this is why being not connectable cuts off half of the communications, and 80% of the chances to seed are lost. such peers usually sit quiet, get updated with tracker, get list of downloaders, try to connect to them 1 time, most likely fail, and wait for next refresh in up to 1.5 hrs.
Seraiel Fanatic
on September 9th, 2015
/ post 68190
I edited my last post, it's better and easier understandable now. Maybe you want to read it again.
Everybody has limits. I neither was nor am planning to go against those .
And not everything I write is of major importance, sometimes I also only post, because I noticed that active posting from someone causes others to become more active too.
This site having more active seeders would be good though, I'm actually trying to download torrents from TM-radio that aren't really that old for about a week already, and they're all at 0%. It's no real problem though, as I can simply make re-seed-requests for all of them, once I got the points.
Everybody has limits. I neither was nor am planning to go against those .
And not everything I write is of major importance, sometimes I also only post, because I noticed that active posting from someone causes others to become more active too.
This site having more active seeders would be good though, I'm actually trying to download torrents from TM-radio that aren't really that old for about a week already, and they're all at 0%. It's no real problem though, as I can simply make re-seed-requests for all of them, once I got the points.
Seraiel Fanatic
on September 9th, 2015
/ post 68191
slash wrote:
i mean, how important was it for me to confirm that "yes, despite the fact that site says 'seeders' and 'downloaders' on every torrent page, and yes, even with slow or zero upload speed, although site has no way of reallu knowing how fast some seed uploads to others, site does consider such slow peers as seeds, because they seeds report themselves as such. this is the fragility of torrent system. tracker acts upon what peer tells it. if peer hides some info or falsifies other - tracker has close to zero chance of checking it. peer to peer communications only involve tracker at the very first step.
i don't know why i have to chew all this info... unconnectable peer are called unconnectable because noone can connect to them. they can initiate connection and connect to other connectable peers. this is why being not connectable cuts off half of the communications, and 80% of the chances to seed are lost. such peers usually sit quiet, get updated with tracker, get list of downloaders, try to connect to them 1 time, most likely fail, and wait for next refresh in up to 1.5 hrs.
i mean, how important was it for me to confirm that "yes, despite the fact that site says 'seeders' and 'downloaders' on every torrent page, and yes, even with slow or zero upload speed, although site has no way of reallu knowing how fast some seed uploads to others, site does consider such slow peers as seeds, because they seeds report themselves as such. this is the fragility of torrent system. tracker acts upon what peer tells it. if peer hides some info or falsifies other - tracker has close to zero chance of checking it. peer to peer communications only involve tracker at the very first step.
i don't know why i have to chew all this info... unconnectable peer are called unconnectable because noone can connect to them. they can initiate connection and connect to other connectable peers. this is why being not connectable cuts off half of the communications, and 80% of the chances to seed are lost. such peers usually sit quiet, get updated with tracker, get list of downloaders, try to connect to them 1 time, most likely fail, and wait for next refresh in up to 1.5 hrs.
Sry, I actually only wrote you a PM, because the question about the half-open connections was really important to me. You have a lot more knowledge about the torrent system and seed a crazy amount of torrents (crazy for me) , and I thought that you could give me an expert answer towards that question.
All of the posts about seeders not being connectable and seeders not actually seeding were only written because I wondered about that. They also weren't directly adressed at you, but also at others. Maybe I shouldn't have posted those things at all, but as I said, activity produces activity, so it also could simply have happened that 10 users jump onto the thread and say "I have the same problem" , then everything would have been ok, so I saw it as a chance. :/
[EDIT]
We can see this as a test, if the forum doesn't become more active after such drama, then there's little that would help . Sry.
A side of this has frustrated me too...,
There are two users who share large amount of torrents but have upload restricted to 1kbs. If you look a little deeper into the files you are trying to download, you can find out who. I haven't looked in more recent time, but 9-10 months ago this was the case when I looked to expand my music collection. In the end I found my musical needs else where.
These files are shown as active and seeding but really aren't..,,
There are two users who share large amount of torrents but have upload restricted to 1kbs. If you look a little deeper into the files you are trying to download, you can find out who. I haven't looked in more recent time, but 9-10 months ago this was the case when I looked to expand my music collection. In the end I found my musical needs else where.
These files are shown as active and seeding but really aren't..,,
slash ProDanceCulture
on September 9th, 2015
/ post 68197
@Seraiel: is all good. day to day i react differently.
@Moocowdan: as i said, there's very little we can do about it. as you may remember the "Bulgarian Phenomenon", was it Bulgaria? i think so... the time back in 2007-08 maybe, when everyone had slow upload speed, but within same city Bulgare would uypload to each other at crazy speeds (back then) of 10-20 mbps. and then after seeded to each other, their swarm would start uploading to other countries, and seeded lots of stuff this way very nicely... why do i say that? cause it;s same shit... only the opposite way...
@Moocowdan: as i said, there's very little we can do about it. as you may remember the "Bulgarian Phenomenon", was it Bulgaria? i think so... the time back in 2007-08 maybe, when everyone had slow upload speed, but within same city Bulgare would uypload to each other at crazy speeds (back then) of 10-20 mbps. and then after seeded to each other, their swarm would start uploading to other countries, and seeded lots of stuff this way very nicely... why do i say that? cause it;s same shit... only the opposite way...
@slash - yeah i remember that occurring. Control the things which we can control is the smart way to go.
There is a healthy collection of electronic music here at great speeds, it is just that 1 or 2 mixes which you really want from some part of the past which would be nice to have.
There is a healthy collection of electronic music here at great speeds, it is just that 1 or 2 mixes which you really want from some part of the past which would be nice to have.
moocowdan wrote:
@slash - yeah i remember that occurring. Control the things which we can control is the smart way to go.
There is a healthy collection of electronic music here at great speeds, it is just that 1 or 2 mixes which you really want from some part of the past which would be nice to have.
@slash - yeah i remember that occurring. Control the things which we can control is the smart way to go.
There is a healthy collection of electronic music here at great speeds, it is just that 1 or 2 mixes which you really want from some part of the past which would be nice to have.
Personally not bothered on speeds.. All my clients run headless and email me when they're done... ;>
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