Short sighted Americans know nothing of great music.., page 2

same with liverpool  full of angry kids full of coke.. scenes fucked up here

Weird.  You whistled a different tune while actually in Miami.  

raves are for kids, as it is well known. that is why get-in age is 14. most raves don't even sell alcohol. raves are good to check out a bunch of artists simultaneously. as well as check out numerous crafty dancers all over the place. you don't see such amazing performances in clubs, and i mean acts by ravers, not the dj support team or whatever.. raves, esp in usa, are full of either rolling out of their minds kids, or completely sober young adults, who has done so mich e in the past, they don't roll anymore and dance without drugs, well, maybe weed, no, definitely weed! =)

clubs are different.. drinks and hooking up, that is what happens in usa clubs, at least in chicago. that's why i rarely go.. i like rave atmosphere better..

ps. i am russian. i live in chicago. so i am not an shortsighted american. and my opinion counts!

the clubs everywhere are too VIP oriented with bottle service...

raves are better because its all about the music...